What do you contend will be the results of Obama's intending to reform immigrati

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   gmwilliamsposted 9 years ago

   What do you contend will be the results of Obama's intending to reform immigration
   
   in terms of the illegals if the Republican majority senate do not vote against it? Do you believe that America will be worse if Obama passes immigration reform?
   
   

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   Mitch Alanposted 9 years ago

   He can't pass Immigration reform" unless Congress passes a bill for him to sign. But, if he chooses to act unilaterally and give amnesty (any name given, the results are the same), then it would fit right in with a Cloward and Piven approach that links in with Obamacare.

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      retief2000posted 9 years agoin reply to this

      I doubt that he will try to extend his term beyond the 8 years but who knows, a hand picked successor would fit with the despotism just as well.

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   retief2000posted 9 years ago

   This is merely the first of many actions to come over the next 2 years as Barrack Obama guarantees that America pays for its past sins and changes to suit his vision of where America should be when his term is finished.
   
   The ultimate goal is to re-create America as a leftist Utopia where everyone is, in some way, dependent on the CENTRAL government for his well being. This will entail further destroying federalism, the separations of powers (which is well underway) and silence all opposition either through force, implied force or social controls like shame.
   
   There is a rising level of conflict over the 10th Amendment covering many issues, not the least of which is illegal alien status - i.e. Arizona v. United States.
   
   Obama's amnisty move and other "executive actions" have highlighted the misrepresentation of executive authority in relation to the law, aggressively expanded Executive authority and woefully diminished Congressional authority - with the assistance of Harry Ried/Nancy Pelosi and through the passivity of the Republicans.
   
   The Republicans have been cowed into passivity by the vicious use of social controls. Any opposition to Obama has been shouted down as racist. The First Amendment protected press is supposed to act as a check on government power not a means of expanding it. The press have been his Praetorian Guard.
   
   The Press have, themselves, been subjected to intimidation by Obama.
   
   We can all expect ever more as his term nears completion and he feels the increasing urgency to employ ever power at his disposal to irrevocably change America for the protection of the rest of the world.
   
   Liberals will attack anyone who speaks or writes this way because their basic tendency is toward despotism. They recognize no acceptable limitation on their desires to recast reality in the image of their Utopian Vision. That is why the egregious abuse of power by liberal Presidents is rabidly defended.

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      gmwilliamsposted 9 years agoin reply to this

      You are so correct!  Obama has a racial animus against America which he wants REPAID!

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      retief2000posted 9 years agoin reply to this

      I think it goes far beyond mere race, after all Black Americans are suffering under Obama. Higher unemployment,disintegrating households, schools, morals, businesses and wealth in the Black community.He just added unneeded competition by this move.

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   aguasilverposted 9 years ago

   Let's see......... 250 million, mainly white Anglo Saxon gun owners verses 5 million mainly South American illegals and they are dumb enough to say f**k the white man..... should be an interesting sorting out when it happens.
   
   Remember, when 'whitey' took America from the Indians the Indians did not have good weaponry, whereas the average American 'dude' has enough firepower to wipe out a small Mexican village on his own.
   
   http://toprightnews.com/?p=7281
   
   Take a look, see the tolerance and understanding these immigrants feel for their 'fellow countrymen'......
   
   Right now all you need do is sit back and await the new revolution that looks likely to be coming.
   
   Me?
   
   I'm unaffected, I speak Spanish already, live with Spaniards and love them, and by choice, I have lived in Spain for 27 years.
   
   But the average white American of Northern European stock..... that looks like trouble to me............... your POTUS seems determined to change how America is, was and wants to stay, and personally I doubt the mainstream non liberal Americans will let him, so either dramatic changes in government or a new peoples revolution, with an outcome of either a new republic or a total police state.

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      junksellerposted 9 years agoin reply to this

      White, Anglo-Saxon, non-liberal gunowners is nowhere near 250 million. Probably more like 50 million (about the size of the Latino pop). 90% of our population growth over the past decade was minorities. That trend isn't going to change.

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      aguasilverposted 9 years agoin reply to this

      Should be a fair fight then, one which decides who runs America for the next century.
      
      I was basing my figures on what my white militia friends told me, so who knows what the real numbers are?

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      junksellerposted 9 years agoin reply to this

      There won't be any fight. It is already over. Your white militia friends have been in their bunkers too long.

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   dashingscorpioposted 9 years ago

   No, I don't believe there will be much difference. The executive order primarily just covers those who have already been here for 5 years+.
   Most illegal aliens perform jobs that the majority of Americans have little interest in pursuing as careers.
   Any new reform bill passed by congress will increase strengthening the border. Both political parties have been looking for away to address the issue of the millions of illegals who are already here and have been for years.

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   GNelsonposted 9 years ago

   We went thru this in the 80's with a different group of illegals.  Business wants cheap labor so no one stopped business from hiring them.  The law for hiring illegals was not enforced and now we have another group of illegals.  The problem lies with business and government, not people who come to this country because it is a better country than theirs.  It will not change until our elected leaders care more about the American people than business and money.  No matter what we do today we will have another group of illegals in 20-25 years unless you put the blame where it belongs.

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